
Disclaimer: The blog article is meant as a guideline for others to show the importance of professional communication. It is by no means meant to put down FCUK. This article was published earlier in January 08 but was taken down due to FCUK's requests - now that he has a stable job and moved on in life, both him and I feel its time to take the curtains off for folks applying for jobs this recruiting season.
Situation: A friend of mine (lets called him FCUK) from Carnegie Mellon interviewed with a consulting firm based in California. They liked him, offered him a job and a decent pay (upwards of 95k total package). He wanted to negotiate the salary so the director of the firm (lets say HER) setup a time when they could talk. Both of them agreed to talk last Wednesday at 7 PM EST.
Wednesday, 7:00 PM EST : The phone rings. FCUK is in class, completely unmindful of the vibrating Moto Razor in the depths of his backpack. FCUK misses the call. He gets out of class at 9:30 PM EST and realizes his folly.
"Eh, its 6:30 PM in California right now. I'll give her a ring tomorrow morning."
Thursday, 4:00 PM EST : FCUK calls HER. HER is pissed and FCUK tries to pacify the boss. HER tells FCUK that she has to reconsider the offer and that she would get back to FCUK by the next day.
Thought : The situation is bad but not completely irretrievable. A convincing conversation or a decent email can do the trick. FCUK tries to contact me at office with a draft of the email he plans on sending HER. I am busy and do not get a chance to listen to what FCUK has to say. FCUK send the email to HER at 5:30 PM EST. I open my mailbox one last time before going to bed at midnight and am startled by what I read -
"Dear SHE,
First of all, let me take the opportunity to thank you for granting me a chance to work for your prestigious company. And I assure you that you will always be very satisfied about this decision, once you see me prove my abilities and capabilities with actual hands-on-work in professional environment.
I deeply apologize for missing your call yesterday evening. It was entirely my mistake and i wish to take the full responsibility of the same. I kindly urge to you to give me a chance to explain the situation, as i see it from my end.
This is my final semester at Carnegie Mellon University and am required to take 5 courses in order to graduate. As you already know, academics is my highest priority and i never compromise on the quality of education and opportunities of learning. This is the first week of school, and thus, currently I am attending more courses (9 courses overall) than what is expected out of me. I intend to attend first introductory classes of all courses pertaining to my interest, before I make a conscious and well-educated decision of finalizing courses.
Last night I took an impulsive decision of attending a core computer science course: Game Theory (from 6:30 pm to 9:30 pm). It was a completely impulsive decision that did not consider my scheduled appointment with you. And I deeply regret that. The Professor of this class implements "no cellphone in class" policy, which didn't let me see your call to make matters worse for me. It was only when I stepped out of the class that I realized my blunder when I saw your missed call. But it was 6:30 pm at East Coast then and I decided not to give you a call after office-hours.
It was in the next morning that I hurried up to call you to apologize in person. And I can never apologize enough for this blunder.
Madam, I kindly ask for your forgiveness. My ability to pursue excellence with no compromises, combined with my impulsive nature has always been my core strength . And I ask you for a chance to prove this to you by actually working professionally for your company and excel at my job .I have no explanation for my behavior. But I assure you that this mistake will never be repeated in future.
With sincere apologies,
Yours truly,
FCUK"
I called FCUK that very second and told him the job is lost. I still had a hope that SHE might buy into his crap but eh, very little chance of that happening. IMPULSIVE NATURE? Did you mean INSTINCTIVE nature? Dude!!! You just shot yourself in the balls. FCUK you!! I believe that one needs to be precise and to the point which this email does not comply with. Besides, I thought that the tone of the mail was over defensive which gave the impression of repetition in the 6 paragraphs.
Tuesday of this week : SHE replied. As any good consulting firm should, her response was on predicted lines.
"FCUK,
Thank you for your interest in MYHOLE (name changed for privacy). However, given our recent concerns we have decided not to extend an offer to you. As I articulated on the phone, detail orientation and promptness are critical in this line of work. The numerous mix-ups you made recently with call times has caused too much concern for us to overlook and we fear that you may be lacking in these areas. I was also not pleased with the way you handled the most recent mix-up and our last conversation in general. You conveyed too much defensiveness and aggression around the timing mix-up and in your attempt to negotiate the terms of an offer. I would not have been happy to hear you speak in these tones to our customers if you were to work for MYHOLE, and this further reinforced our decision.
I wish you the best in your continued job search and I hope you take these lessons to heart. The signals you send - whether intentionally or not - during the interview process are important. Employers have few data points to go on, so we have no choice but to pay attention to those that we are given by candidates. Of course MYHOLE will reimburse you for the travel costs that you incurred while flying to visit us. If you will scan and email me the receipts for your travels and provide your mailing address, I will have our Finance department mail you a reimbursement check.
Regards,
SHE"
FCUK wanted to send another email to HER but I advised against it. Sometimes, the world is a small place and you should have a boat before burning a bridge.
Moral of the story - Double check and email before sending them. Take a professional writing course. And most of all, get your FUCKING name correct :-)
Monday, September 8, 2008
How NOT to get a Job
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17 comments:
Fristly, Who on earth wants to know what happened. Atleast not the HR.
Secondly, dont shoot an email on the spot. Atleast get it checked by someone.
Thirdly, I sympathise with FCUK as he just lost a FCUKING 95K job. [:)]
RIP FCUK.
I really sympathize with the so called FCUK in the blog first of all he got FUCKED big time and if you ask me I am preety sure he still does not know what hit him :-)
There is a silver lining to his suffering the reimbursement check and I hope that MYHOLE does not give review comments on his bio data to other HOLES !!
I think this story tells everyone that we should think were smart but never really over do it.
The person at the other end might be the biggest #%#$%HOLE but at the end of the day she makes the decision between "getting reimbursed by MYHOLE(lol) for air tickets" and getting a 95k job ...
jyada hero kabhi nahi banna chahiye !! :-)
Sympathies for FUCK(ooops FCUK)...
I have seen people like FCUK...and their awesome communication skills(Reminds me of one of our friends in undergrads...)..Ha ha...
Even if I don't get an opportunity to take a prof writing course, I'll make sure that I cross check my emails ;-)..
BTW where is our FCUK nowadays..(I mean in which hole).. :P
-som
Come on guys - lets give the guy a break. I mean, ultimately, he just wanted to explain his side of the story. I agree that he messed up, but I think we should focus on the bad things that can happen if we do not write mails to the best of our ability rather than commenting on the person to whom this happened. I am sure the best of us would not be in their rightful minds in case something like this happened to them.
As I said, the moral of the story is simple:
1. Re read your mail before pressing the send button.
2. If your emotions are on the boil, desist from writing an email explaining "your side" of the story. I apply a simple rule - would I write the same thing after 30 mins?
3. Be short, simple and to the point.
I would strongly recommend anyone joining consulting to take a Professional Writing class. Being in the profession for a little more than 7 months now, I realize the power of email - both for good and for the worse!!
i loved the way ujjwal has presented the situation. its typical Ujjwal style.Anyways will keep in mind the MORAL of the story :)
Too Good...
And you are right.. one must think before taking any action... very often we have this feeling ki "jo bhi hoga dekha jaayega" and act hastily... but a matter of few minutes can affect the outcome...
Ha ha, brilliant!
I know a few FCUKs myself.
Kaise ho tum?
well if u are high on emotions.. write it.. save it in drafts.. read in after an hr or 2 to decide if u wanna send it!
and when in doubt, ask how to sweet wrap absolutely anything from a consultant.. :)
but as they say, knowing who u r talking to and writing to are V important things :)
So my anonymous comments have already forced disclaimers from the author (wink wink wink)
We have seen what not to do. For quite a while now i have been thinking what i would have done in a similar situation and much to my dislike, i think my response would not be much different from what has been written.
So UJ, u knw what would be great....if u cud put 2gthr a response telling us what cud have been the right way to do it....had u checked the email in time, had the person called u and u could help him(step 1 being deterring him 4m sending the current 1)...lets go back in time and play out this what-if scenario ... awaiting ur version of mail...
Just too good!!
Hilarious at the same time giving an important message to all job seekers ..Keep up the good work
its very important to consult people before dashing off emails to anyone..
The person on the otehr side has never met you and he will just see what you show them (and the only point of contact right now is emails..)
so be sure that the email echoes diplomatically what you mean to say..
or else as they say,
u get fcuked!!!
It drives a very important point home..always remember when you give your word and time for something, else you will never be trusted again, let alone be given a second chance. It is a must, for job interviews, that nothing is certain untill you are in the office, in your chair and have recieved your pay check, hell its still not certain. Fcuk, took Her for granted and got screwed, as much as I feel sorry for him, he needs to learn that people will not tolerate such blunders, simply bcoz they can hire someone else and also bcoz, the need of the job was FCUK's not Her's..anyways, coming to my second point, it is a must to run any job emails by someone else, a 2nd/ 3rd pair of eye always helps point out things that we would otherwise miss. there is a reason they call it proof reading. And that email should not have lasted more than 2 paragraphs. It was one mistake over the other. I hope he learns from his mistake.
I still laugh when I see this...
seriously that dude was a fcuk :)
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